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I'm reluctant to now look at the smart meter but do so. What does everyone else do?

InaShah
a year ago
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Golfforall

Had my smart meter fitted 5 days ago (after years of swearing I'd never have one ! ) . Spent the last few days working out how it operates and how to optimise my heating . I think they can only be useful (if a bit scary 😮) . Not looking at it is a bit like leaving a bill unopened ?

I like my lounge at a comfortable temperature ( 20 C ) , the radiators are off (v low ) in the rest of the house . Easy for me as I live alone . Something I've noticed during the recent cold spell between 0C and -6C around here is that my gas consumption (CH) has risen by 20% to achieve the same indoor temp .

Thankfully I'm not on a budget (as sadly so many are ) , but I hate spending any more than necessary . Been playing with the boiler flow temp but having it too low when the temp is so cold is probably not a great idea .

One thing I noticed (although it's in the small print ) is that the "Standing charge" is added just after midnight , so in my case my "daily usage" is 72p before I've used anything !

No point in being a slave to your smart meter , but it does give you an idea of your usage . I think we all know how much a kettle , microwave or electric fire uses but fridges and freezers also use about 100 Watts (but only when their compressors run ,about 5 or 10 minutes each hour ) .

Use the smart meter to inform yourself and perhaps work out the least painful ways of cutting your usage . I've double checked mine and (unfortunately ☹️) it is accurate .

Unfortunately not looking at the cost wont make that cost go away (rather like an unpaid bill sitting unopened on the mantlepiece ) ?

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InaShah

Golfforall I still look at it. Used to compare and analysis it just now that I have had to turn the heating on as WFH. Was lil scared to see as I can see things jumping in price everywhere. I have had to use the heating much more these few days.

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davidstockport

Golfforall I suspect that many who haven't been checking their energy consumption over the past few weeks are in for a very nasty shock when their bills arrive. My consumption has rocketed and probably would have been worse if I hadn't been aware of how much it was costing.

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Golfforall

davidstockport Agree , I always check my usage and even factoring in the price rises I was shocked to see how much I am using during the recent cold spell . At least 20% more than the previous fortnight .

I've always checked on a monthly basis , now with the smart meter I can see it on a daily basis . May not be pleasant to know , but it's there . Hence my analogy with the unopened bill . Must be even worse for those on prepayment meters , my heart goes out to them .

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Howmuch

Morning lunch and evening at the moment, so about 6 hours in the day. I look at the energy data from my supplier a few times a week, turned of the smart meter display to save the electricity and my sanity. My energy company just sent me a refund of £315 then put my direct debit up by 25 percent.

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davidstockport

Howmuch Don't worry too much about the running cost of IHD (in home display) for smart meters the average cost will be about £1 a year if left plugged in - but if you do decide to unplug it remember it can be plugged in temporarily for you to check consumption etc., although it is best to wait over half an hour for accurate gas readings. (gas meters only transmit data to smart meter at intervals - electricity readings are virtually instant).

My gas meter's outside - and there's no way I'm going out there to check the readings😀

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Howmuch

davidstockport £1 I did not realise it was that much, definitely not plugging it in. I like to check the daily usage occasionally online but cut my electricity consumption by 50 percent and gas by 30 percent last year in preparation.

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davidstockport

Howmuch 😀 If £1 a year (1p every four days) bothers you too much you might try switching your fridge (not freezer) off during the worst of winter, that's what I've done... I don't see the point of paying to keep the inside of fridge cold when it's warmer in there than it is outside.😀

I read some years ago that Inuits (formerly know as Eskimos) use fridges to stop their beer from freezing.

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Golfforall

davidstockport I'm afraid that is really poor advice ! A fridge will only use electricity when it needs to cool to about 5C (that's when the compressor will run) . If your fridge is in a room less than that it is indeed safe to turn it off ,even open the fridge door .

However I doubt anyone's kitchen is below 5C ? probably at least 15C ? Therefore food stored within will go off quicker , your milk etc will go off in a couple of days rather than a week or so .

Years ago (before central heating ) we had Larders with cold slabs etc , but we knew then how long food would last . Sadly that knowledge has disappeared from modern society .

You could theoretically just use the fridge as a cupboard and put all the perishable stuff in a box and leave it outside during a cold spell such as this . Then bring the milk in , wait for it to defrost etc etc . How much expensive heat disappears from the house every time you go in and out the door ? We rarely have a period of weeks of really cold weather as now (its ending tomorrow !) ,so you'll have to switch your fridge back on and work out whether all the faffing about actually saved you any money (which I doubt ) .

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davidstockport

Golfforall My kitchen (no actual heating) is roughly just above outside temperature except when cooking. I have in previous winters switched it off without any loss or deteriation of food. At the moment my milk, two four pint bottles, is actually next to an outside door and actually cooler than it would be in the fridge (if it was on).

I grew up in an age and area where very few people had fridges, any food I have that requires a very low storage temperature is stored in my freezer, freezers were even rarer even fifty years ago.

I don't think you noticed some tongue in cheek humour in my reply to Howmuch who was worrying too much about an IHD costing about £1 a year to run (I suspect his comment was tongue in cheek too).😀

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Golfforall

davidstockport I'm always careful what I put on here as many members might not think it through , or have the experience of bygone days . I could be wrong but I suspect few modern kitchens are below 15 C (that's about what mine is at the moment and it seems very cold to me ) . Next week (we are promised🤔) temperatures will be above the seasonal norm , so having a switched off fridge is not a great idea ?

As I type this the most "Popular " item on the "Deals" section is an electricity guzzling fan heater 🙄!!! say no more . I try to give good advice based on experience - But - "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink " ☹️.

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davidstockport

Golfforall At the present time anything using electricity to create heat (other than perhaps low wattage heat pads, electric blankets or throws) is best avoided if gas is available. I'm not using electric storage heaters this winter, even though they're charged on lower priced nightime tariff, it still works out much cheaper to use gas fires.

I do suspect that in the coming years things might swing the other way.

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Pjran

My husband had to submit our meter readings this week and our use has trebled. I’ve turned the thermostat down several degrees so was shocked.

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Midnightflower

We've been using it for a hour in the morning and then about 2 early evening as the kids have been at school. They've got electric blankets which they use when they go to bed. They've finished school for the Christmas holidays now so I'm expecting the bill to go up significantly.

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Leannexxx

Well considering I've not had my boiler working for 3 days I've not used it at all so I'm making up for that tho today 🙂

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Golfforall

Leannexxx Looking at the forecast ,from tomorrow night we're going to be sub tropical ,14 -16 degrees till Xmas , then normal winter 5 -10 degrees for the rest of the year 😀. Hopefully it will ease the financial pain for many .

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Leannexxx

Golfforall where are you to get 14 -16 lol I've just checked and it's saying 8-9

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Golfforall

Leannexxx I always trust the BBC - silly me 🤔

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MelissaLee1

Maybe an hour a day.No central heating just a plug in. Otherwise onesies ,blankets and warm drinks. Much more snug!

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hspexy

I’m wearing layers and layers of clothing…trying to resist spending money on heating

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Bossclaz

I have been keeping an eye on my smart meter but it's just too cold to be tight

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Emerge11

I want a smart meter but they are not doing them where I live. I have tried for years now with EON. I would change my supplier but they are cheaper after doing some research. I put my Heating on last Tuesday (Gas) and clocked It for an hour. It cost me £1.10. Total rip off. If I had a way, I would Install a wood fire or a Diesel Heater. The CEO`s of these big energy firms are making a killing off us.

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jdible

As late been on a lot

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Mayhem

Mine is set to constant at around 30 degrees - so comes one when it gerts cold

ive been told that is the most efficient setting

no idea if that is true or not

today is the first day its not come one as its a bit warmer

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