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Police Seize a Pushbike with Dangerous Modifications

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I have seen some ingenious modifications to vehicles but this is the 'Frankenstein version' of them all

Yes it is dangerous and illegal , but this person must have expert technical mechanical knowledge to install an engine , exhaust and fuel tank on a pushbike !!!

But they were 'pushing it' to think they could get away with riding this around without tax or insurance

It is bad enough to try to get away with a more powerful electric bike than you are allowed , but sticking an engine on a standard pedal bike is not only illegal but highly dangerous, the braking system would not be able to cope with the stopping power of this vehicle , even with shimano gears

www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/24154695.blackburn-police-find-bike-dangerous-modifications/

telmel
9 months ago
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MelissaLee1

I was up in London with a nun once and a load of people came down Oxford St on bikes in the nud.I tried to distract her but difficult not to catch glimpse of what I later found out was the Naked Bike Ride.

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telmel

MelissaLee1 I think that's what inspired Queens 'bicycle race' hit M

I remember seeing the poster and video

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MelissaLee1

telmel makes sense.

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Jerseydrew

MelissaLee1 hilarious. Must have been a sight. Bet the nun secretly loved seeing the naked riders

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MelissaLee1

Jerseydrew God only knows and her saintly self of course.Actually she was quite unphased.

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Jerseydrew

MelissaLee1 she's a nun. Probably worked the community somehow. Trust me working with people nothing phases you

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MelissaLee1

Jerseydrew We had a guy ripped off his kit in church once.I wasn't there that day lol.

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PaxAmerica

But maybe the builder is the UK's answer to Elon Musk

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telmel

PaxAmerica Possibly P 😄

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ACR

From the picture the bike doesn't look like it was well maintained. Although, I'm bit surprised the police were 'shocked', as a variety of bicycle conversion kits have been around for a while. They can be purchased online, for example - www.amazon.co.uk/Stroke-Petrol-Motorized-Engine-Conversion/dp/B07F82NKFY

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telmel

ACR I am surprised Amazon got away with selling the kits, the conversions cannot be legal, especially using on the roads, probably ok on private land though

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BonzoBanana

You can get such conversions legalised for the road and modern bicycles can often stop better than older motorcycles thanks to hydraulic disc brakes. Here is a video of someone who went through the legalising process. These 80cc petrol engines are not as powerful as ebikes which 14 year old children can take on the road with no training at all completely legally. Those would typically have more torque and acceleration. Yes petrol is dangerous but I'd rather deal with a petrol fire than a lithium ion battery fire. When you convert a bicycle to a low weight, low capacity motorcycle it has been compared to early motorcycles from the beginning of the 20th century which were similar just using a bicycle as the basis of the motorcycle with a small capacity engine fitted. In fact some people have made their bicycle conversions look very similar to such motorcycles in British racing Green or maybe they have gone for the old style military look like this;

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That news report shows a very rusty example with both the motor and chain looking less than ideal condition so I suspect that motorcycle conversion had been used quite a lot before the Police were involved. It certainly doesn't look like a fresh conversion. I've seen a video on youtube where a person was riding his engine conversion bike along the canal paths illegally. No one cared as far as I could tell. Also I saw a video where someone had adding electronic engine sounds to their ebike conversion so it sounded like a motorcycle, a bit like what BMW has done with some of their cars to synthesise a better sounding engine than actually fitted or you get on toy sit on electric cars. Sam Pilgrim has tested such conversions a few times and I don't think they are that impressive compared to a ebike. A bit like a 70s supercar is no match for even a cheap EV of today. The old supercar might do 0-60mph in 6 seconds but some cheapo Chinese MG EV is doing around 4 seconds, 50% faster.

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telmel

I watched the video B and it was very interesting

Some of the things mentioned that are needed to make this road legal are a reg plate, an MSBA exam first like an mot, but it still needs an actual mot every 3 yrs , a VIN engraved professionally on the frame, brake handles need to have a 7mm curve, and it needs narrow motocycle tyres that are hard to get hold of

He said he gets 40 to 60 miles out of his 2 litre tank, and it equates to about 120 mpg

To build and legalise it cost him about £1600

I understand why not many people would bother doing this as you can buy an EV bike for about the same , but then its if you feel safer with petrol than lithium batteries as you mentioned

It was quite nostalgic for me when he mentioned the BSA Bantam, that was the second bike i owned , the first was a Francis Barnett and my third a Triumph TR6 Saint , as i went for classics at first before changing to the more modern Honda CB before morphing to cars

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BonzoBanana

telmel Personally I wouldn't bother with the legalising bit. It would be nice to convert a bike into a motorcycle for private roads or land occasionally for novelty value but they don't appear to have any real use because the law makes them uneconomic to use. Unless you can stick an old mower on the front and call it a ride on lawnmower and avoid tax and insurance that way or maybe a farm hand can attach a trailer just for moving stuff from one field to another and again class it as a limited use vehicle.

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MelissaLee1

The boys are talking bikes lol.My dad used to cause uproars with my mum when he used to fix all his mates motorbikes in the kitchen at night!

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telmel

MelissaLee1 That's what a kitchen should be used for M, cooking comes second 😀

Just a note on the Francis Barnett, i never knew they still existed , not only are they still alive and kicking they are producing new models

Here's a link to their website for any bikers here

www.francis-barnett.org/

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