Let's Talk about Population
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My morning routine is coffee, comps and GMB. Despite the news always being awful i cant break the habit.
Wars and the misery it causes.
Dr Hilary explaining why there are not enough doctors, funding etc.
Cost of living and shoplifting.
Housing and mortgage shortages. And so much more.
But not one person ever mentions the P word. Forget stop oil, save the planet and so on, if the POPULATION was halved most of these problems would not exist, though men will always make war.
But of course we cant halve the population so isnt it time we talked about putting the brakes on? It is the one easy to manage solution we can all do and i cant for the life of me understand why there isnt even a discussion.
I am totally with you. People forget that Great Britain is only a island, it's time to say stop enough is enough
sallylester1 well we can apparently accommodate a population of 40 million comfortably but we currently have getting on for 70million so it won't be long before we are double our capacity.
But hey ho, then the population will definitely decrease as we won't have enough food, housing or medical care so death will be the inevitable consequence.
We only have one child because we felt that way we could afford to give him the best life possible. Most of my friends only have one child too. Unfortunately you can't tell people how many children they can or can't have as they see it as their choice. One child is more than enough for me.
MrsCraig I agree but I do believe the time is not far away when we will have to tell people how many children to have. It may be seen as a human right but isn't it also a human right for us to live a life without poverty, sickness, war, lack of education etc. We just cannot afford to keep doubling the world population every 50 years or so without contributing to the death of our planet.
Lynibis The planet will be fine its the lifeforms on the surface and in the oceans that are scr***d.
I completely agree about the population situation however I don't think we can prevent people having children but we can certainly create policies that don't support families that have more than one child.
Global warming is going to destroy a huge amount of crops and the UK is pretty much bankrupt with huge debts we simply won't have the finances to pay sky high rates for the reduced level of food the world produces. These problems are only a decade or two away so makes sense to come up with food policies that maximise food production in the UK and motivates people to have less or no children. There are countries in Africa that struggle to grow crops due to excessive heat and poor irrigation this can only get much worse for them in the coming years. The UK and Ireland is going to shrink in size due to rising sea levels as are many countries in the world.
It just seems sensible to set goals now and work towards them. Much easier to do that now where the change is gradual instead of reacting only when problems happen.
I do wonder if we need to move to proportional representation yes it means we will have hung parliaments and parties will have to work together which they may fail to do so but it should mean the Green party is fairly represented.
Many conspiracists talk about a population cull. Wars are a rapid means of reducing numbers of course. Some say that wars are engendered and incited for a purpose . Selling arms and seeking after natural reserves is just a small part of the story. UK/US and Europe have a lot of money and energy invested in the War Game. As/When/If we finance wars we have a moral obligation to house those we inadvertently render homeless. Most people seek asylum not because they choose to but because some crazy government/s has rendered them homeless by blowing their home to smithereens. 
Queen Victoria was a warmonger and actually the British Empire expanded the most under her reign. It also abolished slavery and we had the industrial revolution under her reign I think. She certainly didn't refrain from conflict though. So I'm not sure you can blame just men for war, there are plenty of female leaders who started wars including Cleopatra and they make up a significantly lower amount of leaders historically. Margaret Thatcher wasn't exactly a anti-war leader either.
I guess you can also make the point that war does help decrease the population a bit.
BonzoBanana not so sure that is a valid point as women have always been known as the peaceweavers and in medieval times the job of a queen was to encourage her husband to a peaceful path. Of course it rarely worked but who knows how many times it did. Going back before that women were not as repressed and people like Cleopatra and Bodicea had to fight for their very survival, not because they wanted to. Silly women also allowed themselves to be led by men in the so called name of love.
On the whole women are not willing to see children and babies murdered but as we are seeing, even in the 21st century many men commit those foul deeds. I would sooner population be controlled by self control than war for sure.
Lynibis I'm certainly not suggesting women are as bad as men overall but certainly on the less common times when a woman is in power she seems to be just as likely to go to war. War is often a pride thing, people in power have huge egos and desire control. Most men don't want war especially as in most cultures its men mainly who are sent to war as cannon fodder.
Well I had 7 children and regret nothing, well regret not having the snip sooner 
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I was not lucky enough to have any children even though I wanted them because of various problems. My sister and sisters-in-law all had them. I think having 2 is reasonable and lucky to have that much. I don’t think people need more than that. I don’t understand people having up to 18 even if they can afford them. It’s this and the fact everyone wants to come here so no wonder so much building and housing going up. It’s getting far too crowded as you say we are only small island.
Do you have children and grandchildren? Most of us are responsible for increasing the population!
Pjran yes, but some more so than others. I have 2 kids and 3 grandkids. Someone with five kids, even if they only have two each, is 15 to my five so 150% more than me and worldwide that is catastrophic, even allowing for those who have none or one. I am not suggesting no one has kids, just stick to a couple.
When I was working I dealt with several of 30 siblings sired by a feckless father. Imagine if they all had just 3 each that is 120 to my 5, and that is not an isolated case. Besides which my generation had no inkling that the planet was slowly dying.
Difficult one to solve as the biggest issue with population increases these days is via immigration. The actual birth rate is down in this country compared to say the 60s or 70s when large families were common , most people these days only have 1-2 children , of course career and financial reason play an important part in that these days
LD is mostly in favor of free speech, but don't feel I can truthfully answer it here. 
It's not offensive, just the inconvenient truth.
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