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What happened to 'Net Zero' target by 2050?

The key question now is what people around the country make of it!

"Chasing the short time headlines" is not the right approach without a plan.

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jms19

From the article I've seen they're saying most people don't actually care about it and would prefer things that result in more money in their pockets short term even though the climate issue is one of the biggest problems facing humanity. I can understand the short term mindset given the financial issues everyone is facing but as a long term thinker it doesn't make sense to me cause the problems will just cost us all more in the future.

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FearLoathing

jms19 A financially stable long-term thinker, one can assume?

Lots of people don't have the luxury to think long-term while living from paycheck to paycheck, taking out high interest loans just to stay above water.

With public transport in this country being so awful in every single respect, I imagine most people who simply cannot afford an EV or Hybrid will be grateful that they won't be forced to get rid of their personal transport for a bit longer.

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jms19

FearLoathing yeah that’s fair to say, it just feels like if things are bad now they will get worse if we don’t try to move away from certain things. However it is easier for me to say that than a lot of others who are, as you say, living pay cheque to pay cheque.

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Pjran

Very sensible move. This makes economic sense as we’re not making enough batteries to power cars.

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PhilipMarc

Good. Banning petrol/diesel cars was a stupid idea.

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Jerseydrew

Flaming tories. We need to think about the planet. Joke. We need to stop climate change while we can

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FearLoathing

Jerseydrew if they want us to stop using cars, the government should subsidise public transport to a point where it is reliable and accessible to everyone. Either that or buy us all a shiny new Tesla. Short of that, why would anyone want to sacrifice their freedom to travel?

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jms19

FearLoathing Yeah very true, the public transport links in this country are severely lacking and the car insurance has gone up ridiculously and apparently it will go up further next year as well. It does kind of feel like the people with the least in our society are the ones getting squeezed unfairly.

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Pfs

If I can afford one I would buy one but I can't so I will carry on driving my petrol car

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jam45

Pfs Can't you see an election is due within the next two years? After the election, Rishi Sunak will change his mind and stick to the original ban.

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Leannexxx

It's makes no difference to me as I don't own a car but I must admit that when the country went into lockdown the air was a lot better and my daughter didn't have to use her inhaler no where near as much

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tumblespots

I don't think that electric cars are the way ahead. They are so expensive and the people I know who have bought one have all regretted it as they have had so many problems and have even been stranded. Long journeys will be a thing of the past - but then the government don't really want us on the road so it does suit them to get our cars off the road!

Notwithstanding the excessive cost electric car battery materials come with other costs. Mining raw materials like lithium, cobalt, and nickel is labor-intensive, requires chemicals and enormous amounts of water—frequently from areas where water is scarce—and can leave contaminants and toxic waste behind. These resources aren't limitless either.

In a world where we are all very aware of reduce, reuse and recycle why are the powers that be asking us all to ditch our petrol & diesel cars. Where are all these cars going to be put? What a huge waste when if are still running perfectly well, so much for using products until they are broken & can't be repaired.

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MrsCraig

My husband and I have to drive to work. There is no bus or train service that goes to the area where he works, I don't mean it is limited I mean there literally isn't one. The trains and bus to my work aren't regular either and don't actually get me in on time for work or home in time to pick up my son from nursery. So public transport isn't an option. We can't afford an electric car, never mind two. I'm all for saving the environment but there are certain things we just can't afford to do.

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BonzoBanana

3 tonne EV's are not the answer to global warming. Using your existing car as little as possible and walking or cycling where possible is the answer. EV's are far more likely to catch fire and cause deaths and like the story below. It took just one EV out of 25 on a container ship of 3000 cars to destroy all the cars and massively damage the container ship and kill one person.

The extra weight of EV's is also a major issue, it wears the roads faster, it can damage car parks and require reinforcing. They can also block roads on minor roads for emergency vehicles because of their width. The EV legislation really needed to make sure vehicles were smaller and the tyres wider to spread out the weight better. We need 1 and 2 seater vehicles where possible not 7 person vehicles. People that need huge vehicles should be taxed much more for them. Now the UK is has such a high population density we need legislation like the Kei car legislation of Japan where small cars are taxed far less.

Car tax and insurance should not be by the year it should be by the mile. So if I buy car insurance that gives me 10,000 miles of insurance and I only drive the car 2,000 miles a year that covers me for 5 years. It motivates me to use the car less and stretch out when I need to buy car insurance again. Having yearly insurance means the people who use their car the most are most subsidised by the tax system which is madness. It encourages people to use cars more.

EV's if anything should be taxed more, they cause more fires, more injuries, more damage to infrastructure, this all has to be paid for. EV's are better as public transport, such vehicles are built to a higher standard typically, maintained and monitored better. You are far less likely to see a broken down bus or coach, yes it does happen but typically they are better maintained. They can have much better procedures for dealing with fires.

www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jul/26/cargo-ship-fire-off-dutch-coast

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