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How Would You Stop These Champagne Gangs Stealing from Our Supermarkets ?

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These Romanian criminal gangs are not just stealing random items from supermarkets, they are targeting luxury goods like champagne that is much sought after back in their own country

They operate like agents in the movies, working in small teams using bluetooth headsets to communicate with each other

Despite the supermarkets upgrading their security regarding the trollies with technology to track them and put a brake on the wheels, the thieves stopped using them and turned to using bags and baskets instead

Up to now they have got away with more than £2.4 million in luxury goods

The problem is if they are caught they are just fined or sent back to their own country

I think all supermarkets should have these items locked in cabinets and only given at the till after they have been paid for , maybe at a certain collection point

The supermarkets could put a few dummy bottles on display filled with water , that would take the sparkle away lol

What ideas can you think of that supermarkets could adapt to fight these types of crimes ?

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/inside-70k-champagne-gang-shoplifters-30193506

telmel
3 weeks ago
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hspexy

Perhaps if people actually got punished for such crimes, that might deter them…the punishment isn’t harsh enough to stop them from trying

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telmel

hspexy y

You are right H, thats why they do it, they are just let off in the end with a slap on the wrist

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hspexy

telmel police don’t usually turn up unless the theft was violent, and even then it takes time for them to respond - most thieves are long gone with the goods before they show up. They may be more responsive to higher valued crimes, but the criminals usually do it again and again as they’ve gotten away with it in the past

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telmel

hspexy Thats the problem H

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BonzoBanana

If its such a high amount of money perhaps 20 years forced labour. Such situations will probably drive us to elect someone like Nigel Farage eventually. We have tried moronic idealistic politics for far too long, we need practical politics and unless the mainstream parties come up with proper solutions to problems people will eventually be forced to try more right wing solutions. Conservatives completely failed to get a grip on such problems and I really can't see Labour solving it either. Harsh punishments are the real deterrent but harsh punishments mean far less people will be punished anyway as its a greater deterrent.

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telmel

BonzoBanana You may be right B, it might be the only answer

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Pjran

BonzoBanana or Sudan court sentences three men to hand amputation for stealing

This article is more than 1 year old

The verdict, the first of its kind in almost a decade, has shocked many who fear country is sliding back into state extremism

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Gromit22

Pjran I was all for this but then realised knowing how we are over here - the tax payer would then pick up their living costs for x numbers of years and they would receive more than an disabled person - you know how soft we are here!

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Pjran

Gromit22 😂no pay their airfare and they become the Sudan authorities responsibility. No benefits or NHS there.

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thepaxman

Until there’s actually a deterrent (a proper sentence) then nothing is going to happen I’m afraid. They aren’t bothered by cameras, staff etc as they know all it will be is a slap on the wrist and on you go

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telmel

thepaxman You echo my thoughts T

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JLouM

I think we are in a ridiculous situation. The prisons are overcrowded so are being released anyway. There’s hardly any punishment. I think locking high value items away might be an answer. If Argos, Costa and McDonalds can use screens for placing orders why not do that? Someone from stockroom gets it to the checkout for you. I’m only thinking high value items though.

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telmel

JLouM That could be a solution j , but they would need to completely restructure supermarkets layout to provide more space to do this , it could be done though

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BonzoBanana

telmel Much easier I think to have membership schemes, places like Costco have far less theft because only members can get inside so they always know who is inside and can do criminal record checks for member applications. I wouldn't have a problem in supermarkets requiring membership personally.

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telmel

BonzoBanana Another good option B, why aren't the supermarkets thinking of ideas like this, you would think they want to be robbed blind

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Gromit22

JLouM I think that’s a very good idea, Argos has been doing it for years and also Screwfix

They could do this for all the booze as it has separate aisles anyway. You have a person at the front taking the collecting it. The cost of technology and wages must be less than the thefts given the amount of thefts.

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PayItForward

It’s crazy that they are getting away with it. Extra security to try and catch them would be a good start

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telmel

PayItForward Even security will not react to them P , most are told not to approach the thieves and just observe, they are only there as a visual deterrent , and the thieves know this

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PayItForward

telmel that’s terrible. may as well not have any security at all then. I’ve seen security at my local Tesco chase thieves lol

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telmel

PayItForward Yes it depends on the company , but i suspect many security guards on the minimum wage are not going to risk getting assaulted and seriously injured for a bottle of champagne for example

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Lynibis

Chop their dominant hand off!

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telmel

Lynibis Oh, to be more pro active as other countries are L , no wonder everyone wants to come here , it's a thieves paradise

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Mango4

Morrisons have put all their's in locked glass cabinets and you have to push the buzzer for a member of staff to come and get you what you want. Not sure how this works in practice but can see a lot of annoyed and impatient customers particularly in the run up to Christmas

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telmel

At least it keeps the thieving barstools away M

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martinlufc5637

Only way to deal with them and the pick pockets is to deport them, one strike and your out policy

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MelissaLee1

Break their corks and pop their bubbles perhaps? Image

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telmel

MelissaLee1 Booby trapped display bottles, a brill idea

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Imnotcheap

My local morrisons keeps the more expensive bottles in locked cases

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Jerseydrew

Maybe if the police showed up and dud their jobs and arrested these criminals we'd have a chance to stop them.

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Gromit22

In my local Asda this scan and go, has created even more thefts. They go out with trolley fulls now. They had extra security on the doors on Saturday. I think supermarkets need to help themselves though - don’t make it easy by having Scan n Go and self scan!

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telmel

I think the only way it might be prevented is if we all had id cards and had to scan them before entering the supermarket or store , if not the door would not open

Even scan the card on the way out to open it

The problem is the expense of setting it up and people objecting to it because of the big brother syndrome

Also it could cause a bottleneck in crowded stores

Maybe not such a good idea 🤔

How about scanning the receipt at exit to open the door , and having a goods reading technology to see what items you have on you against the receipt ?

A bit futuristic but doable

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